Let us be clear, with the US’s illegal invasion of Iraq the precedent has been set for countries like China to do like wise. The US is in position to preach to other world powers.
Perhaps would be President John McCain can draw a link between Iran training the Chinese in its terroist training camps. The same camps that they are training Al Qaida.
Posted by Frank at March 24, 2008 03:15 PM
Hi Eric, I agree with you overall. I hope that there are more investigative journalists like you who really knows the world history better and reports/comments in a fair, balanced and responsible way.
I agree that Tibet can have more autonomy in the Chinese federation. However, 1) the principle of separating religion and politics has to be uphold. Dalai Lama can be head of the Lamaism but not political head. No going back to pre-50’s theocracy. 2) all Chinese citizens can freely move to whereever they like in the Chinese country. Tibetans can move to the rest of the country; other Chinese (not just Han) can move to Tibetan, too. Freedom of movement is a basic human rights.
Posted by ColinLeesburg at March 24, 2008 03:18 PM
Uncle Frank
As bad a precedent as we may be setting as the world’s new global imperial power, the Chinese, and many others, are ancient civilizations with long traditions. Some of those traditions are less savory than others, but I think the Chinese would consider it the greatest of insults if one were to insinuate that they learned how to extinguish indigenous cultures historically within their borders from the Americans. Unifying dynasties and stamping out political diversity is a very long Chinese tradition; they hardly need to learn how to do it from us, though one might say that their approach to it was more temperate than our own “Manifest Destiny.”
Posted by chatman at March 25, 2008 03:52 AM
“Ethnic inundation” You have coined an interesting term Mr. Margolis. It is also interesting that you link it to a planned policy of cultural genocide. This same tactic is currently being used against the West, specifically Europe which faces an Islamic majority within 50 years.
http://www.heretical.com/miscellx/culturec.html
Posted by Blueskies at March 25, 2008 03:56 AM
To Blueskies:
Your suggestion that Muslims are engaged in a deliberate tactic of ethnic inundation against Europe would be laugable if you did not appear to be so serious.
There is NO evidence to suggest that Muslims are engaged in any such activities, unlike the very real policies persued by the PRC in regards to shifting the demographics in Tibet and East Turkestan.
I challenge to provide any proof whatsoever to support your allegations.
Hilarious!
Posted by The Red Prince at March 25, 2008 10:00 PM
To Red Prince as requested:
http://www.freedomszone.com/archives/2007/04/muslim_speaker_tells_of_islams.php
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=C5067035-DF55-478F-AF89-5F46195482D8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BugIu_QsvlQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peFQWuk4nuo&eurl=http://www.islamismad.com/
http://www.yaledailynews.com/articles/view/23784
http://www.gwias.com/globe/archive/000072.html
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=50020
http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110007760
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnJcsQYZEGU&feature=related
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull&cid=1167467834546
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/355
Posted by Blueskies at March 26, 2008 04:42 AM
I had to join just to comment on this one thread
Blueskies you provide a lot of links that don’t provide a shred of proof for ethnic inundation by Muslims, which is what was requested.
So if there’s a conspiracy I guess the Government in on it because of their immigration policy and further more the actual citizens are in on it and are refusing to have children to prop up that immigration policy
Laughable was the remark..perfect
Posted by Gruesome at March 26, 2008 09:31 AM
Dear Eric Margolis,
I respect you that you have the rights to suggest Chinese how to resolve the tibet Crisis.
But I have another good idea for your reference, you and your white neighbours must return to Europe, the american belong to the Indians.
Do you feel shame that your ancestor invaded the Indians’ land , killed most of them, occupied their hometown,restricted their living area? Why the USA invade the Iraq? For freedom? Does Hawii belong to the USA before 200 years?
All of you are really hypocrisy. Have you forgotten how your country invaded China from 1840 to 1949?
I noted you visited Tibet in the past years, you also met with Dalai Lama. I wonder whether you visit other area like Shanghai, Canton? I don’t want to show you our biggest city to you. I just wonder why you are so interested in Tibet and Xinjiang. All of the Chinese are working hard to develop the economy, no one care the Tibet Crisis. But I must told you a truth, there are more than 300 Tibet students study in our city, we supply free accommodation and course to them, want them to construct a new tibet after they graduated. I also visit Lasha, the city is so beautiful and peaceful,I cannot see the crisis what you mean. The tibetan’s life is so good, they can have many children,but we Han Chinese can only have 1. Tebitan no need tax to the country, the country invest large funds to costruct Tibet.
The crisis happened suddenly , it’s under the control of Dalai Lama. We don’t believe the Tibetan want to rebel and be independent from China,most of the Tibetan are very kind,only a handful of Separatists.
Frankly, I don’t like your report, because you wear a pair of colorful glasses.
I hope you can visit China more frequently,visit more Chinese people, not only Han Chinese, but other minorities.
Then, pls take back what you said and report the lasted news!
All of the Chinese will appreciate what you do in the future if you are listening to me.
Best regards!
———————
Wayne Ding
2008-03-27
Posted by Wayne Ding at March 27, 2008 02:47 AM
Thanks Wayne for an informed inside opinion.
It is amazing how we North Americans conveniently forget that the lands we live on were taken by force from people we tried our best to exterminate.
People proposing a boycott of the Beijing Olympics are misguided. I guess every two years (Winter then Summer Olympics) the world could beat-up on the hosting country until they obey the mob. Here in Vancouver we’ll be hosting the 2010 Winter Olympics. Will the world boycott our olympics unless we grant Quebec independence? Or until we treat our natives with respect?
All that’s needed is a handful of separatist troublemakers to get media attention. People love to jump on wagons of condemnation, it’s so much easier than having to think.
ECanuck
Posted by ECanuck at March 27, 2008 04:41 PM
Please take a look at this if you don’t know:
http://www.iivs.de/~iivs01311/EN/front.html
Posted by ColinLeesburg at March 28, 2008 12:38 PM
Please Red Prince know your facts.
The Chinese never control the economies of these countries Indonesia & Malaysia.
The British prior to 13th. May 1969 control the economy through their Pte. Ltd. companies. The Dutch & Britishers control all the oil fields & rubber estates. They control 70% of the economies & all its natural resources.
Retail business that was done by the Han Chinese is basically a mum & pop store. Every sons & daugthers chip in the long hours.
Posted by Henry at March 30, 2008 07:00 AM
At least you are honest with this statement that Tibet would be an Indian Protectorate if P.R.C. had not regain back Tibet.
Look at Sikkim, Nagaland & other states, the Indians are moving in there as well. I believe that there is an intercine guerilla warfar there as well, why don’t there Westerners & Western press give prominence to these as well.
If you people who watch the television, you will notice that the Tibetan rioters seems to be very well warmly dress.
If anything the Han Chinese are too good to the minority peoples of their country.
Posted by Henry at March 30, 2008 07:16 AM







