THE WORLD APPLAUDS OBAMA’S VICTORY
November 05, 2008
America has hopefully left the dark period of post-9/11 `temporary madness,’ to use the words of writer John Le Carré, and is re-emerging into the daylight. The grim era of President George W. Bush and his mentor (and real president), VP Dick Cheney, is at an end.
But they have handed a poisoned chalice to president-elect Obama. Three foreign wars – Afghanistan, Iraq, and Somalia - national bankruptcy, an enraged Russia, the entire Muslim world seething with hatred for the US, a wave of Islamophobia at home, growing anti-Americanism in Latin America, India developing nuclear weapons that will one day threaten the USA, and on and on.

Obama will have to deal with all these problems and a fast-emerging China while trying to fend off the powerful special interests in Washington that have already been putting the squeeze on him: the military-industrial-petroleum complex, big pharma, the Israel and farm lobbies, bankrupt automakers, the finance industry, old folks, and black groups clamoring for more federal funds.

Once Obama has to face all these demons, I fear many of his supporters will be disappointed as their savior turns into a typical Washington politician who has to juggle all sorts of competing demands while the nation is plunged into financial crisis. A good start would be by bringing criminal charges against the fraudsters, mountebanks and crooks who created the current financial panic and shutting down the Guantanamo Devil’s Island.

The Republicans have certainly gotten what they so richly deserved – irrelevance and ignominy. Under George W. Bush and Dick Cheney, the party veered off to the extreme right, and even flirted at times with Mussolini-style fascism. The GOP became a virtual theocratic party of the rural Protestant fundamentalist far right, led by little ayatollahs preaching hate for Muslims and big city folk. Republicans are now relegated to the Southern and Midwestern boondocks of the US, its most backward, dumbed-down regions. The party of Lincoln and Eisenhower needs to purge itself of hicks and holy rollers and return to its moderate roots in the civilized, educated regions of America.

Equally important, Republicans must delouse the party of its neocon infestation and bring in foreign policy experts who put America’s interests above those of foreign nations. The Democrats also need be wary: the neocons, smelling impending disaster, began jumping the Republican ship well before elections and are now burrowing into the Democratic Party.

As a North American, I am enormously proud of president-elect Barack Obama and of the nation that elected him. Yesterday’s epic vote does much to relieve America of the lingering shame and burden of slavery and mistreatment of its people of color. I don’t think any black man will be called `boy’ again after Obama’s victory. His election marks America’s important demographic shift from a mostly white nation to one of mixed race and multiple cultures.

I can only hope and pray that Obama will end the Bush administration’s foul legacy of lying, assassination, kidnapping, torture, secret prisons, supporting despots, and whipping up hatred of Islam while playing to Christian religious fanatics and doomsday cultists. America’s once proud name was disgraced and dragged through the mud during the Bush years. I was often ashamed to be an American and racked by sorrow over how low my nation, whose uniform I once proudly wore, had sunk. I often compared Bush’s America to the old Soviet Union.

Americans have spoken with wisdom and intelligence even though the media and their leaders still deceive them over Iraq and Afghanistan. The whole world was sick of Bush/Cheney and revels in the thought they will soon be consigned to the ash heap of history. By January, the worst, most incompetent, most destructive president in US history will be gone. Alas, a lot of his most pernicious acts, like stuffing the Supreme Court and Appeals Courts with right wing ideologues, curtailing individual liberties, unleashing security organs against citizens, institutionalizing torture, and militarizing foreign policy, will continue when he is long gone.

Whether the youthful Obama will restore America’s economy, values, and world position remains uncertain. But it is hard to conceive of him and the Democrats doing worse than Bush/Cheney and the southern-fried Republican Party.

Obama’s victory speech contained the following phrase:

"And to those Americans whose support I have yet to earn – I may not have won your vote, but I hear your voices, I need your help, and I will be your President too. "
Rhetoric, perhaps, but elegant and promising. What a pleasing change from Bush’s garbled bombast.

Some historians claim people really do not make a difference. Historic change comes from economic or social trends, they insist. Wrong. One man, Barack Obama, has made history and is going to make a lot more over the coming years. I salute him.

Hawk
Wednesday, November 05, 2008 4:12 PM
Obama might make a difference if he survives the next year. Even then he will have a hard road to change just the various pernicious internal civil liberty curtailments of the Bush administration, let alone the foreign policy adventures. I hope he does but I don't think he will.
Idiolect
Thursday, November 06, 2008 12:15 AM
Being realistic is one thing but taking it to pessimistic levels is just not what will help the US or this world. I am sure everyone realizes that the task at hand is enormous and may take a long time but we need to make a start and show the way to the next generation and nudge them in this direction of re-construction and healing process.
Hard Left Turn
Wednesday, November 05, 2008 4:15 PM
Hello Eric,

Beautifully written, and incredibly balanced. From the Hope on the faces of the People of the U.S. will come the resolve to do the Hard Thing(s) I look forward to the start of a Great Purge.

Peace, HLT
sherry
Wednesday, November 05, 2008 5:52 PM
Thankyou for this poignant article. I was very surprised to read that you were a Republican but noted that the Republican Party had changed and needs to do some soul searching somewhat like our Liberal Party of Canada.
I have been a fan of yours for many years and have enjoyed your interviews on T.V. If I may, I admit I was very moved during the movement of the 60's and the strength and conviction of the African Americans and their journey at that time. Last night I was sitting there with tears streaming down my face when Barrack Obama and his family came down that walkway. I did the same thing when Chretien said NO to the Iraq War.
Now, reading your fine article, has got the tears flowing again. You are a treasure and a credit to North American people. There are people in this World like yourself who care about injustice, and I do hope the Bush/Cheney criminal behaviour is not forgotten by the people who have the position to prosecute them.
toumbak
Wednesday, November 05, 2008 6:44 PM
Excellent article, the only question being what to do first? Closing Guantanamo, releasing the tortured souls who obviously have done nothing should be first. Next should be restoring the taxes on the wealthy to pre-Bush levels and use a portion of these funds for reparation to these prisoners. Next, how about showing the Geneva Conventions and other treaties signed by the USA are valid and arresting and convicting the war criminals like Bush, Cheney, Rice, etc. That should demonstrate to the world at large that the USA will no longer be a rogue nation.
Idiolect
Thursday, November 06, 2008 12:21 AM
Closing down Guantanamo and providing justice to the people there is welcome. But I guess arresting Bush-Cheney administration for war crimes would not be such a great idea (supposing that you were being serious). The discussion is a lengthy one so I will assume that you would know some of the reasons why it wouldn't be wise.
But I agree that US would benefit a great deal on international front if it decides to follow the same principles and abides by the same rules and laws that are expected of rest of the world. In short lets get rid of the hypocrisy.
skean
Friday, November 07, 2008 7:37 PM
I believe charging and prosecuting Bush/Cheney and others in this administration would be exactly the right idea. You are correct in stating that the conversation would be a lengthy one, but only because of the number of charges that could be brought against them in an honest airing of the facts. Kucinich's articles of impeachment are only a start (http://kucinich.house.gov/NEWS/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=93581).

What must be made clear is that this behavior was/is criminal, unacceptable, and prosecutable. Perhaps it will make some in the future think twice. And then think again.
Idiolect
Sunday, November 09, 2008 1:08 PM
And how do we do that? Or may be I should ask how do we make sure that it happens?
:-)
transparency
Wednesday, November 05, 2008 9:56 PM
I congratulate the Americans on a new era that is yet to be witnessed. Let's not forget that when evil George bush came to the Black house, you could tell he was such a dumb person. Now, after two terms, he's proved unanimously that he's dumber. Yet, he still managed a second term.
That tells every person who knows just a little politics that OBAMA will not be running the U.S.
Every non-American political observer knows that the team and lobby that runs America is never the president. In fact , if the president decides to bypass that evil lobby, you'll be hearing more of the Iran-contra Affair , Teapot Dome , Watergate, Whitewater Affair , Iran contra, Monica Lewinsky, etc.. This tells the president that he better behave or else..
DID THE MAJORITY OF TV BRAINWASHED AMERICANS EVER ASK THEMSELVES WHY ARE THEY ALWAYS ON ISRAELS SIDE?!!!
Idiolect
Thursday, November 06, 2008 12:36 AM
All these conspiracy theories are alright for a gossip over a cup of tea but I do not believe that people are helpless and President and other people in administration are puppets in the hands of a faceless evil 'lobby'. Yes there will always be groups of people who would share common interests and would try and make those interests a higher priority. But it still is President's decision at the end to decide which one to pursue. If he/.she is people's choice then he/she needs not to worry about any such group and should/would make decisions based upon his/her judgement.
Let us not loose hope that things can be corrected in a more peaceful way than a massive cull.
oldfan1
Wednesday, November 05, 2008 10:46 PM
Oh Oh ! This just keeps getting better and better, got snookered again.
The same old shell game with a new twist.
The age old axiom was Innocent until proven guilty, the new one as applied to politicians should be GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT.
Lets see if Obama can prove himself INNOCENT, until then, I for one will reserve my salute.
oldfan1
Thursday, November 06, 2008 12:38 AM
See what I mean, it is so very predictable. Obama is not batting very well on the prove yourself INNOCENT scale.
Obama's first pick for his chief of staff is the israeli-American congressman an avowed ultra-zionist zealot Rahm Emanuel.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1034855.html

"Actions speak louder than words."
This appointment speaks to the previous poster's ( transparency ) assertions as to who really runs the show.

Idiolect,
I guess you have not heard of AIPAC and its tactics in destroying careers of those who have not sided with israel's views. Its a well known tactic to label a perfectly viable argument as a conspiracy theory to negate it and be dismissive of it.
The mere mention of conspiracy theories will not negate the fact there is a deep rot in the American body politic.

Your arguments for toumback are specious at best. Pray, please enlighten us all why criminals such as Bush and Cheney should not held to account for their misdeeds if the likes of Slobodan Milosovic and Radovan Karadic can be tried for their crimes.
I, for one and believe most here would be patient with your lengthy elucidation on such a discussion.
Idiolect
Friday, November 07, 2008 4:43 AM
I have heard of AIPAC and that it is worst of the worst. And it seems to me that you stopped reading my comment right after you read the words "conspiracy theory". I did not deny the existence of such organisations and the power that they exercise over the system. I merely stated that it is President's decision to let these lobbies influence his judgement. So may be we should focus our energies on ensuring that the President does not do so and we can probably do that by letting the President know that he will have the strength of his people to draw upon if he decides to do the right thing. I realize that it should be obvious but its always good to have a reassurance every now and then.
I would suggest that we look at the selection of Rahm Emanuel as his chief of staff based upon Emanuel's eligibility for the job and compare him with other candidates available for the job rather than discussing whether a jew should be holding this post. I'm a muslim, living in a country which is greatly affected by the 'war on terror' thanks to Bush. I would probably find it very easy to suspect everything that Obama does. But that wouldn't be wise or just. It wouldn't make me happy either.
I agree with you on Bush and Cheney being criminals and I do hold them responsible for the deaths of many but the US has consistently opposed an international court that could hold US military and political leaders to a uniform global standard of justice. I reckon that an effort is required to get rid of this double standard and be a part of ICJ in a more just and meaningful way. Once that is done Bush/Cheney/Blair and many others could be put on trial and brought to justice, and I would like that to happen. In my opinion that needs time and 'lobbying' to have ICJ law applicable to US military and political establishment. The general public should pressure their government into doing the right thing. Government should be afraid of the people. And wise people like yourself could help raise that kind of awareness.
oldfan1
Sunday, November 09, 2008 12:39 PM
Presidents have been bought and paid for and do the bidding for groups such as these. Past experience and history is ample indication that people have very little say or power in shaping policy. Good luck if you want to hold Obama’s feet to the fire!
As a Muslim you should be insulted at the utter lack of sensitivity toward the entire Islamic world in the appointment of rahm emanuel as chief of staff.
Is this any way of building bridges with Muslims or a clear sign to them as well as the world as to who controls the levers of power? You mean to imply there are no other qualified or suitable candidates in the entire US of A.
This man is rabidly anti- Palestinian and pro-settlement and an avowed Zionist and yes there is a difference between what a Jew and a Zionist is and they are not one and the same, I recommend you make yourself aware of those differences.

Here is a snippet about our new chief of staff to be:

"Neal Travis of the New York Post reports that, according to a new book on the Mossad, Israel blackmailed President Clinton with 30 hours of tapes of his phone sex talks with Monica Lewinsky. The agency allegedly agreed not to release the material in return for Clinton calling off an FBI hunt for a top-level Israeli mole supposedly in the White House.
The allegation appears in "Gideon's Spies - The Secret History of the Mossad," written by Gordon Thomas. Lewinsky testified under oath that after a session of heavy petting and oral sex in the White House, Clinton told her a foreign embassy was tapping the two phone lines in her DC apartment. She claims Clinton told her that if questioned they should say they knew their calls were being bugged and were only joking to fool the tappers. Kenneth Starr does not pursue the matter. Thomas tells the NYP: "So far as anyone knows, the Israeli agent MEGA - a much more important spy than the imprisoned CIA traitor Jonathan Pollard, and probably his controller - is still in place at the White House."

THE MOLE WAS RAHM EMANUEL he resigned with little media fanfare, the day Bebe Netanyahu showed up in a Washington Press conference with a sh** eating grin smoking a big cigar."
Idiolect
Sunday, November 09, 2008 1:02 PM
My apologies oldfan1

You are right. I don't mean to have blind optimism but what I am trying to say is that the President of USA probably has to take everyone on the board and yes it would be a welcome change if we could see him being friends/close to some muslims as well. But I guess he is kinda scared to do that after him having to prove that he is a 'good christian' who has nothing in common with his muslim dad except for his surname.
oldfan1
Sunday, November 09, 2008 1:49 PM
Please, no need for any apologies my friend. I admire your optimism, where would this world be without hope and optimism.
We must all continue to strive for unity for our shared common humanity because in the end we are all one.
Cheers!
Idiolect
Thursday, November 06, 2008 12:43 AM
A well written piece Eric, for yet another time.

I couldn't agree more that we need to stay optimistic but at the same time do not abandon reason and logic to realize that the task at hand is an enormous and 'our job' does not finish after the vote. Now it is our job to make sure that the people who are elected stay on the course they promised and we must offer our help to them so that we can achieve all that we desire.

Well done USA. Congratulations! Lets keep up the good work.
Shazam
Thursday, November 06, 2008 10:09 AM
Het Eric, admit it - you voted Democrat. What's in a name anyway? I vote for whatever party best aligns with my values, namely inclusion and compassion. I too was pessimistic, saying of America - Too little, too late. A friend pushed back, saying Its never too little too late. That gave me pause. So for now, Obama, clean up the House as Eric says and watch out for those special interests that exploit America for their own ends.
lord anthony
Thursday, November 06, 2008 8:39 PM
Out of the gate, Obama must import a modern and transparent election machine.
I had extreme nervous attacks when reading about the patchwork of incongruous voting-systems which HASN'T been fixed since the Florida hanging-chad farce eight years ago.
Makes USA look pretty silly.
LINCOLNSHIRE POACHER
Friday, November 07, 2008 2:43 AM
Wonder if Bush will try to do some preemptive pardons, I mean pardon themselves now for future. aaha! Awaiting his pardon list, bet it will be interesting. Hope they don't do anything really screwy in the changeover period, I'm sure their directors in Israel are calling on the phone urging them to "bomb Iran quick, you still have time" ... "and send some more military goodies so we can resell to China and copy to compete with the US for sales to India" "we can all make a buck, shalom" http://www.israelforum.com/board/showthread.php?t=629

"..foreign aid to Israel was quick and automatic (about $6 Billion), even at a time the Congress is telling us of budget deficits and lack of money for the unemployed American workers. "

"As an American I am outraged at the blind historical allegiance our Senators have provided Israel while they neglect many of our pressing domestic issues such as airline security, Social Security and Medicare Reform, Education Reform, Health Insurance for needy Americans, Money for Dilapidated Schools, and Prescription Coverage for our Elderly. Our Congress operates on the premise that most Americans are disinterested in foreign policy thus they have a vacuum to provide Israel with blank checks and our latest F-16 fighter jets that Israel uses to kill Palestinian civilians. They depend on our media to keep us uninformed and distracted with Sports, Harry Potter, and scandals. "
http://www.mediamonitors.net/khodr49.html
DoDaCanaDa
Saturday, November 08, 2008 9:46 AM
My first impression of Obama 20 months ago was that he is classy and cool. I also applaud the American people, and share the joy and hope his election has brought to the World. Now the real hard work begins, not only for him, but for all people of goodwill who must effect the change under his Leadership.

I share the sentiments you have expressed so eloquently in this article, but I am confused on one point: ¨Equally important, Republicans must delouse the party of its neocon infestation and bring in foreign policy experts who put America’s interests above those of foreign nations.¨

Has not the problem with American foreign policy been its Imperialistic attitude that its interests are paramount, disregarding the valid interests of other Nations? The lesson of the current financial crisis is how interconnected all peoples, nations and tongues have become.

This crisis came about because the Wall Street titans put their personal interests above those of their countrymen.

If this fundamental lesson is not learned, then we are only buying time forestalling inevitable collapse if a business as usual attitude remains.

John McVey
Saturday, November 08, 2008 11:06 AM
John McVey
Already I've heard the braying that the "left leaning media" threw McCain under the bus. I'd say it was the Rebublican's anti-intellectual campaign and propaganda strategies finally insulted the intelligence of enough our American friends.
My fear is of the "Carter" effect, this is one hell of a mess to straighten out in four short years
and if things get worse he may be blamed no matter what he does. I agree Guantanamo is a dis grace as well as those Wall St. bandits defrauding all of us. Good luck Mr. Obama in twenty months I'm hard pressed to think of one really stupid thing you have said. Twenty days rarely goes by for most people in your line of work.
rlott
Saturday, November 08, 2008 11:11 AM
So far it looks like a who’s-who of Clinton cronies.

- Obama’s Chairman, John Podesta, was Clinton’s Chief of Staff and presided over the last-minute Clinton pardons, among other things. Chicago lawyer.

- Carol Browner, Clinton’s EPA Administrator, Florida lawyer, Madeline Albright’s business partner and recent wife of ex-Congressman and mega-lobbyist Tom Downey. Downey received $500,000 to lobby for Dubai to take over operation of US ports and another $500,000 by Fannie Mae to cover their behinds in the sub-prime mortgage disaster.

- Federico Pena, Clinton’s Secretary of Transportation and Secretary of Energy. Texas lawyer.

- Bill Daley, Clinton’s former Secretary of Commerce and the brother of the Mayor of Chicago. Clinton appointed him to the Fannie Mae board and his son worked as a lobbyist for the agency. Chicago lawyer.

- Larry Summers, President of Harvard and former Clinton Secretary of the Treasury. Economist. He’s the guy who suggested, among other things, that women may be genetically inferior to men in math and science, and developed countries should export their toxic waste to developing countries because these countries would incur the lowest cost from the pollution in terms of lost wages of people made ill or killed by the pollution due to the fact that wages are so low in developing countries.

- Susan Rice (no relation to Condoleeza), Assistant Secretary of State under Clinton. Washington lawyer. Interestingly, Congressional Black Caucus leaders consider Rice a member of "Washington's assimilationist black elite."

- Spokesperson Stephanie Cutter, former Clinton, Kerry, and Ted Kennedy mouthpiece. Massachusetts lawyer.

- Rahm Emanuel, the new White House Chief of Staff and former Clinton White House staffer. Investment banker. Emanuel held a seat on the board of Freddie Mac, earning $231,655 in director’s fees in 2001 and $31,060 in 2000. During Emanuel’s tenure, Freddie Mac was plagued with scandals involving campaign contributions and accounting irregularities. Emanuel is also considered “one of the most hard-line supporters of Israel in the Congress” by numerous Muslim organizations. So much for Obama’s promise to “build bridges” with Muslims. Interestingly, Emanuel volunteered to serve in the Israel Defense Forces and served in one of Israel's northern bases during the 1991 Persian Gulf War, but he apparently never saw a reason to volunteer to serve in the US military.

- Christopher Edley, Dean of Berkeley Law School and former member of the U.S. Civil Rights Commission under Clinton. Harvard lawyer. Edley’s wife, Maria Echaveste was Clinton’s Deputy Chief of Staff.

- Transition committee staffer Christine Varney was chief counsel to the Clinton/Gore Campaign, a Federal Trade Commissioner under Clinton and also worked in the Clinton White House as assistant to the President and secretary to the Cabinet. Washington lawyer.

I really missed your columns on the Clinton administration but it looks like I'll be reading them again in no time!!!

Rich
Dik
Sunday, November 09, 2008 12:03 AM
Rich, I like your summary of the cast of characters; I have concerns about his selection and I'm not holding my breath for any significant changes.

I hope it's not the case, but I think Obama may not be the panacea hoped for. My only regret, however, was that his grandmother wasn't alive to see him elected.

Dik
rlott
Sunday, November 09, 2008 8:03 PM
It will be interesting to see what happens when the “Change We Can Believe In” crowd realize they have traded the strings on their limbs for a hand up their fundament. If they even notice...
ys
Saturday, November 08, 2008 4:11 PM
Eric, a very nice essay for a hopefully nicer time.

I Would Like To Say "Congratulations!" on The New and Improved ericmargolis.com .

Cool photo of yourself; and nicely designed "controls" ;-)

Kudos to your Webmaster/Designer.

We hope you will put up your columns all the way back to the eighties, and not delete all the comments. Some of them hilariously wargamed a fight between Pakistan and the United States, and that back in the 2006!

Again CONGRATULATIONS on the website, and we hope to see the interviews with Paul Jay linked, too.
ys
Saturday, November 08, 2008 4:19 PM
PS - You have been mentioning your views on India's program, about capacity to reach western targets for a long time. Could you please tell us the genesis for this outlook, what events/sources in India or Washington lead to this conclusion and how do you think this might play out.

Thanks

ys
Makkhan Singh
Sunday, November 09, 2008 5:20 AM
PS - You have been mentioning your views on India's program, about capacity to reach western targets for a long time.

It is very simple. If India can launch a satellite into polar orbit, with just a little more effort, India can send a warhead to any point on earth.

Just like if Pakistan can make two-stage missiles like the Shaheen series, with just a little more effort Pakistan can add more staging and send a warhead to any place on earth.

These are not engineering issues... rather they are political issues. Flaunting the ability to target Europe and US will put you in a class of people you would rather not belong to at this point.
ys
Monday, November 10, 2008 3:10 AM
*class of people you would rather not belong to at this point*

Or a class you might not want to belong to?

Wouldn't that kind of capacity not just bring you too much publicity of the "negative" kind? The kind the Soviets had?

I can't see the Congress, BJP, or the Indian Left wanting to brag about the ability to "reach" Washington with weapons.
Unless they think Washington would threaten them......but then we are entering a netherworld of Godawful "scenarios"; the kind that Rand Corporation thinktank nerds make money off.....

On a more personal note:

Makkhan Singh !!! Meray Yaar! Kaisay ho? Hows Karachi? How much has Zardari and the new Gov stolen? Has it oustripped inflation yet? By what percent has the Dhanda rate risen with both the mqm AND ppppp&p in town?
ys
Monday, November 10, 2008 3:36 AM
*class of people you would rather not belong to at this point*

Or a class you might not want to belong to?

Wouldn't that kind of capacity not just bring you too much publicity of the "negative" kind? The kind the Soviets had?

I can't see the Congress, BJP, or the Indian Left wanting to brag about the ability to "reach" Washington with weapons.
Unless they think Washington would threaten them......but then we are entering a netherworld of Godawful "scenarios"; the kind that Rand Corporation thinktank nerds make money off.....

On a more personal note:

Makkhan Singh !!! Meray Yaar! Kaisay ho? Hows Karachi? How much has Zardari and the new Gov stolen? Has it oustripped inflation yet? By what percent has the Dhanda rate risen with both the mqm AND ppppp&p in town?
Rampart
Monday, November 10, 2008 3:52 AM
Oldfan is right... Nobody can accuse me of not honoring a bet... back to being Rampart.

The kind the Soviets had?

I would love to have a President like Krushchev, banging his shoe at the UN, showing his finger to the world, targeting all of USA. Every Pakistani would love to have a President like that.

But you and I know, our leaders are sissies, so that is not on.

Also, at least have a thousand nukes before you behave in such a fashion... not the 150-300 we have right now. It is far better to keep silent and sleep with a sharp knife under your pillow.

I can't see the Congress, BJP, or the Indian Left wanting to brag about the ability to "reach" Washington with weapons.

That's right. It would be stupid.

It will get America's attention all right and you can use nuclear blackmail, but there are far better ways to do such things specially since neither Pakistan nor India, consider the US an enemy.

With such things Pakistan has an edge.. we have proven to the world we are a crazy people and can sell nuke tech to people like the Norks if pushed too hard. That kind of silent blackmail is also effective... we have a split personality.... "Don't make me angry... you won't like it when I'm angry".. Incredible Hulk. LOL

How much has Zardari and the new Gov stolen?

Kalia and company have gone to jail (Pakistan's largest money changers and Hawala racketeers)... they removed $10 billion out of the country. Their computer data has been secured. Everyone who tried to cheat on their taxes and had dealings with them is now a target.

Zardari has behaved far more responsibly than expected.

In fact, since we have zero expectations from this guy, whatever he does seems like a pleasant surprise.

And MQM? They have been reduced to the status of a beggar. It is only a matter of time before they are totally finished.
Unknown Man
Monday, November 10, 2008 10:31 AM
I recall these two quotes from recent Margolis articles:

"Pakistan is bankrupt, with only 60 days of foreign exchange left to import fuel and food. Half its 165 million people subsist on under $2 daily."

"Pakistan is on the verge of bankruptcy and may shortly default on its debt, risking social chaos."

But at least they can rest in the comfort that they still have their nukes. Margolis should rephrase an earlier article: "A country built on nukes is a country built on sand".

Sounds like North Korea and Pakistan have more in common than I suspected.
Rampart
Monday, November 10, 2008 1:18 PM
Thou shalt not quote Margolis back at thy lord!

I respect Margolis because he has seen a lot more of the world than I have many times over... but I often suspect him of "drawing room analysis" when it comes to Pakistan. Truth be told, I am as much .. if not more... of an expert on Pakistan as Eric is, since I live here. I just look at things from the bottom up rather than from the top down.


But at least they can rest in the comfort that they still have their nukes.

When we sell a bit more nuke-tech on the black-market to Iran or whomever... yeah, we will be even more comfortable than we are. LOL


"A country built on nukes is a country built on sand".

This is better... "A nuke a day keeps America away".

Remember, Pakistan has the right to sell to whomever we like. No laws are broken since Pakistan is not part of the NPT.

So the rich bastards of the world will always support Pakistan... got to keep the crazy guys well fed... or else they start selling the good stuff.

Even if Pakistan decides to default on it's loans, the world won't let it. LOL. Yes, they act like they are doing us a favor, but better people than I, have written about this recently... the world ... actually the US and half a dozen of it's stooges... can't afford a bankrupt Pakistan.

Nuke-tech.... The gift that keeps on giving.
Unknown Man
Monday, November 10, 2008 4:14 PM
This is true: "A nuke a day keeps America away".

Nuclear weapons are an insurance against U.S. invasion. That's how North Korea avoided being bombed back to the stone age. Look at Iraq, they had no nuclear weapons, and look what amreeka did to them. Then again, this is a silly comparison since everyone knows North Korea does not have anything anybody wants.

Let's hope the U.S. does not act foolish and try to take out Pakistan's nukes. They seem they can't get enough of bombing Muslim countries.

DoDaCanaDa
Sunday, November 16, 2008 8:34 AM
On this point only, I was thinking of Krushchev recently banging his shoe at the UN and saying to the Americans, ¨We will bury you!¨

I find it such a delicious irony so many years later, the two Communist giants have the Capital and America is buried in debt.
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