WELCOME TO OBAMA’S WAR
February 23, 2009
As Santayana observed, those who forget history are doomed to relive it. However overused used, his maxim is as true today as when he made it.
On 15 February, 1989, the 40th Soviet Army pulled out of  Afghanistan, marking the end of Moscow’s bloody and disastrous occupation.  Its able commander, Gen. Boris Gromov, was the last Soviet solider to leave Afghanistan, leading his men over a bridge spanning the Amu Darya River (Oxus, in Greek) – which Alexander the Great had crossed on his ill-fated invasion of Afghanistan (327-325 BC).
 
In a decade of savage fighting, the Red Army and its Afghan Communist allies killed at least 1.5 million Afghans and drove 2.5 million into exile in Pakistan and Iran.   
 
The new Soviet chairman, Mikhail Gorbachev, determined the Afghan war, that was begun by his dimwitted  predecessor, Leonid Brezhnev, and a cabal of party and KGB hardliners, could not be won. 
 
Fortunately for the world, Gorbachev, proved  a leader of profound humanity, decency, and intellect.  Gorbachev,  courageously accepted defeat and brought his soldiers home.  Soon after, the Soviet Union, a bankrupt empire held together by fear and repression, began to crumble. To his eternal credit, Gorbachev refused to employ force to hold the Soviet Empire together.  
 
Many Russians detest Gorbachev to this day, blaming him for the end of the Soviet Union.  But using the Red Army to crush rebellion in  the Baltic republics and East Germany could easily have ignited World War III.  The world owes Gorbachev an enormous debt for averting this horror.  He put humanism ahead of nationalism and imperialism.
 
The new president of the bankrupt American imperium should heed Gorbachev’s wisdom.  Barack Obama’s inauguration offered a perfect opportunity to pause the US-led Afghan War, and open talks with Afghan groups resisting foreign occupation (both the Soviets and US branded them `terrorists’).  Instead, Obama vowed to intensify the eight-year war which has so far cost the US $ 62 billion.   
 
President Obama declared he will send 17,000 more US troops to Afghanistan on top of the 6,000 troops dispatched by George Bush. Another 13,000 will follow in the spring, raising the total US garrison to at least 66,000.  These reinforcements  are supposed to come from US occupation forces in Iraq.
 
But  Pentagon hardliners and their Republican allies are trying to delay or thwart the troop drawdown from Iraq.    Equally, I suspect that Iraq is in a temporary lull.  Pulling out US forces may prove far harder than Obama expects.
 
Afghanistan is no longer George Bush’s War. It’s now President Obama’s War.  Obama just defined his goals in Afghanistan as: 1. `preventing it from being used as a launching pad for attacks on North America;’ and `defeating al-Qaida.’  He also allowed that some sort of negotiations to split Taliban might be attempted.
 
Both stated goals are patently false.  9/11 was organized in Germany and Spain, allegedly by Saudis and  Pakistanis.  Attacks on New York, Washington, London, Madrid and Mumbai were plotted in apartments and houses, not the mountains of Afghanistan.  Most of the so-called `terrorist training camps in Afghanistan in 2001’ were actually camps run by Pakistan intelligence where mujahidin were being prepared to fight in Indian-held Kashmir.
 
Al-Qaida never had more than 300 men and is today reduced to a handful of fugitives hiding in Pakistan’s tribal territories and Baluchistan. The movement’s primary function, as my new book explains, was as a guest house and data base for foreign mujahidin fighting the Soviets and Afghan Communists. It was not and is not a `world-wide terrorist organization.’   Catching al-Qaida’s survivors requires police work, not thousands of heavy troops.
 
By expanding the Afghan war, Obama fuels the growing  threat of a major explosion in Pakistan.  Today, US warplanes and CIA killer drones operate from three secret Pakistani air bases with covert Pakistani government cooperation. Washington has rented 120,000 Pakistani troops for $100 million monthly (plus equally large, secret CIA payments to senior Pakistani government officials and officers) to support the US occupation of Afghanistan. 
 
In an unprecedented act, Pakistan’s government is being paid by Washington to attack its own people, and to allow US forces to do the same.   Watching Pakistan’s new government  dance to Washington’s tune is an embarrassing spectacle for friends of Pakistan, and a subject of sneering contempt for its foes.
 
Pakistan is bankrupt. The previous US-backed Musharraf regime made off with  whatever money there was.  Yet at some point, Pakistan’s rent-an-army of modern-day sepoys may  rebel and turn against the government that orders it to kill fellow Muslims while letting India expand its influence in Afghanistan and crush independence-fighters in Kashmir.    
 
Meanwhile,  high expectations held by many Americans for Obama are fading.  To the anguish of America’s anti-war movement,  his administration seems set on continuing many of the illegal, repressive policies of the disgraced Bush White House that it had vowed to end:  torture, kidnapping, wiretapping, assassinations, Constitutional infringements, denial of due process. 
 
Guantanamo may be closed, but the equally cruel US gulag at Bagram, Afghanistan remains open.  None of the Bush administration officials who sanctioned torture and other crimes will face justice.    
 
What happened to the Obama who was supposed to bring change? Leftover hardliners from the Bush days appear to be driving Obama’s foreign policy in Afghanistan.  The mighty Israel lobby retains its hammer-lock on US Mideast policy.  During the Gaza bombings by Israel, Obama ducked out of sight and remained mute. 
 
The Pentagon warns that a defeat of NATO in Afghanistan will destroy the alliance – the foundation of US hegemony over Europe.   After Iraq, another defeat cannot be tolerated.
 
Soviet veterans of Afghanistan warn the US and its allies face defeat there.  The Obama White House cannot even articulate a coherent political strategy for Afghanistan.  Its latest big  idea is to kick out the hapless Hamid Karzai and install a new `asset,’ one of the CIA-groomed `good’ Afghans who the Taliban leader, Mullah Omar, colorfully brands  `dog-washers.’
 
Washington hopes US troop reinforcements will finally  bludgeon the Afghan national resistance into accepting American domination. Then the long-planned pipeline from the Caspian Basin across Afghanistan to Pakistan can finally be built.  
 
Talk about fiddling while Rome burns.  It turns out the real national security threat to America was not Osama bin Laden or Mullah Omar, but the unsupervised, crooked financiers and reckless gamblers on Wall Street who wrecked America’s economy and endangered global financial stability.
 
They were not in Afghanistan, but downtown New York City.
 
 
copyright  Eric S. Margolis 2009
ys
Monday, February 23, 2009 10:06 PM
Alright Eric, I've Had it with you and your retro-Reagan era lovey-dovey with nutters on the Hindu-Kush. Let me make things very clear to you right now. All your old Mujahid friends, those civilized, tough, intelligent and pragmatic people; they are gone. They're dead; or lording it over their loot in Peshawar, or Kabul, or like Jalaluddin Haqqani they are quite old men, who couldn't care what the new generation does against organised forces. AND Yes, this is a new generation of Taliban pSycho Warriors.
For those who haven't read Eric's new book, I have and I don't doubt that those crazy men in the mountains of the Durand Line want me (or any other Pakistani) dead, because we use the internet (or for that matter simply KNOW how to use the internet), and that they consider us apostates for not Exactly toeing their line. Let another old man who knows Pakistan, India and South West Asia speak for me, and let all the Pakistani's know that YOU have to get things done NOW or you will be eventually be a target for the Taliban:
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Monday, February 23, 2009 10:16 PM
With all due respect-and please do not get angry but:
Do you have any proof that Taliban want you dead? Please stop projecting yourself as some
intellectual trying to use INTERNET-everyone these Days can use internet! I think you have to learn sensitivity to the suffering of others-You are so consumed by your hate for a certain group-in this case Taliban-THAT YOU REFUSE to see the GEO-POLITICAL REALITY and the Rich Nations taking advantage and creating chaos in certain rich energy states-if they refuse
to Go along with Their Hegemony-
ys
Monday, February 23, 2009 10:19 PM
The Taliban are not a bunch of pragmatists; they are not people who weigh the pros and cons of a situation; they are stone cold ideologists; and I would like to direct your attention to the simple incident of the Lal Masjid; those people did not stop till they were dead.

The Taliban are a new breed; they will not stop till they get everything they want.

From youir comments sir, I can assume that you are a very senior gentleman; please sir, enlighten us on your stance during the Zia-ul-Haq era.
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Monday, February 23, 2009 10:58 PM
From 500 years Old Gentleman:
About "are stone cold ideologists" Let me warn you my Grandson to Power x: have you Heard of AMERICAN SPECIAL FORCES?: If not please be informed about the Rule Book:
Rule 1: There are no Rules.
Rule 2: Follow Rule 1.
Thus I warn you: if some among the Special Forces Consider you as an UnWanted
Pakistani-you better say your last words-Since with "Taliban" I have been informed
from my buddies among mossad operatives that
If you swear to leave them alone-They will Leave you alive- Thus to be safe avoid
any contact with the marines and special forces if you want to live to enjoy the internet-
Because their only Ideology is to WIN-At least in the last 500 years this is as Fanatical
as you can Get-
ys
Tuesday, February 24, 2009 1:02 AM
Aaah...charges of apostasy...

Typical old response.

Pathetic as well. As pathetic as the Army's Frontier Force Regiment in Swat.
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Tuesday, February 24, 2009 10:30 PM
Who is charging you with Apostasy? Do not be paranoid-But your comments are so very
IDENTICAL to the people and groups I stated above-Same arguments-But you are entitled to have
them as long as you mind your own business, and do not tell us how to think!
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Monday, February 23, 2009 11:26 PM
From your comments it seems that you are islamic-hater probably a disgruntled Pakistani,
or linear combination thereof:
1: salman Rushdie
2: Qadiani-
3: islam-hater
About Zia-ul-Haq: What aspect of his rule you want to know?
ys
Tuesday, February 24, 2009 12:58 AM
Have you ever met a Pakistani who wasn't disgruntled? ;-)
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Monday, March 02, 2009 4:32 AM
Reasonable point. Just a joke: I just found one-Rampart! Eureka
DoDaCanaDa
Tuesday, February 24, 2009 10:59 AM
In their daily life, most Afhgans live in mud hut like conditions, without electricity or running water. The people are mostly illiterate and uneducated. It is a culture with oral traditions.

When the good guys, with 21st century technology, come out of the sky and drop weapons of mass destruction on those houses to get one bad guy, but only say, ¨sorry, it was a tragic mistake for the killing of children, wives, mothers, brothers or sisters¨ as ¨collateral damage¨ is not acceptable to Afghans,

Pursuing more of the same policy, guarantees more opposition by Afghan Patriots, including those refugees in the Tribal areas of Pakistan.
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Monday, March 02, 2009 5:10 AM
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Monday, February 23, 2009 11:12 PM

About "Alright Eric, I've Had it with you and your retro-Reagan era lovey-dovey with nutters on the Hindu-Kush.." If you think this way, why bother Poor Old Eric there are many many other Websites-
Eric has His own Perspective, which is Quite Broad and Sensitive about:
1: Energy and the Middle East
2: GeoPolitics of Europe+Middle East+India+Pakistan+
3: The Muslim World-

You have no right to Patronize him-
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Monday, February 23, 2009 10:08 PM
As I predicted the US and its" Western" allies, lust for hegemony will not end-Till there is True Equilibrium of Power-This will never happen-Ironically this contradicts all notion of "democracy",
since in order to maintain Hegemony Honest Opposition is not allowed to develop-Russian have never presented any reasonable thesis to counter this Hegemony-Now India also is disappointing since it has been over-taken by materialism and its own myopic self-interest rather than getting a "global Perspective" to create a truly Multi-polar world- Most "muslims" nations are just Client-puppet States-And China is quietly building its Power which is Just American Emulation:i.e.
1: Military Power Projection-
2: Building huge Monster Corporations-which can crush any opposition-due to huge
economic weight-
3: Following status quo at UNSC-so to maximize its trade with the rich nation-
4: Gives a damm about Environmental Issues-
5: Consumed with insatiable greed-to impose its power on any future opposition-
ys
Monday, February 23, 2009 10:12 PM
Sir, it is wonderful to hear from a man who supported Zia-Ul-Haq in the Eighties.
ys
Tuesday, February 24, 2009 1:04 AM
"About Zia-ul-Haq: What aspect of his rule you want to know?"

Did you happily support this self-proclaimed Amir-ul-Momineen's ruin of my country?
Were you happy and silent as this tyrant went about ruining the country?
Did you ever criticise him for leaving behind a corrupted, crime-ridden Pakistan; pumped on guns, drugs and Afghan Refugees?
I'm sure you did; once he was dead and gone. But while he was alive; did you ever stop to consider what he would eventually leave us?
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Tuesday, February 24, 2009 10:27 PM
Remember You are Just One person, like Everyone Else, One Man One Vote-So Your opinion
is just an opinion just like everyone else-It seems You are Just full of Hate and Vendetta against
Pukhtuns-Join the Club-
ys
Friday, February 27, 2009 7:19 PM
First ppl on this board promise I will be killed by a Pakhtun; then they say I want to harm them.

G`damn...

Can somebody explain what is up with the people on this board, Pashtuns, death and me?

Rampart? Maybe you can provide an answer?

and btw; only 20%? Sigh...
ys
Monday, February 23, 2009 10:10 PM
"Pakistan Army ceases Swat operations ostensibly because the locals don't support the counter-insurgency."

We've heard many weird reasons over the last five decades for actions governments and their armed forces take, but this is a new one. Does Pakistan Army mean to tell us that each time the locals are against its operations it will simply up and quit? If so, then what is the purpose of the Pakistan Army? Face India while the country collapses to its rear? Jeez, someone give us a break.

In practical terms this may not mean much because the Army had already seriously cut back operations by the four brigades stationed in Swat. But this open concession to the Taliban means something the West and India had better understand: the Pakistan Army is not going to fight the Taliban.

Mandeep Singh Bajwa has been saying this for a long time, and Bill Roggio also understood the point some months ago. How much more evidence does the West and India want? Do we have to wait till the Taliban arrive at the gates of Islamabad and Kabul?

Rather than come up with half-baked schemes to get the Pakistan Army to fight, the west and India should be preparing contingency plans for the time - coming soon - when substantial fractions of the Pakistan Army join the Taliban.

We here are 100%, completely, totally, wholly fed up with the cheerful tone US and Pakistani officials take when they are talking about the situation. Isn't it time to face the truth, that the situation has been very bad for at least the last two years - five if you want to go back to the fall of Waziristan to the Taliban, and now the situation has become positively dismal. People, there has to be a limit to denial and self-deceit which has reached the stage an immense psychosis envelopes governments in the west, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and India.

Why arent India and the US at least holding responsible the officials and generals who for the last five years have been spouting the most juvenile twaddle imaginable? Does either country think that everything was tickety-boo, dont-worry-be-happy till a few months ago and then things just fell apart? We know Pakistanis who have been trying to warn the US and India for the last 20 years that a cancer had set into the NWFP and was spreading. The Editor has been trying to warn the Indians for over ten years about the Taliban.

Consider this analogy. You can have cancer for years without knowing it, then of a sudden it erupts and you're dead before you have a chance to understand you're dead.

So it is with the Taliban. What we are now seeing is not the start of a process, but of the mid-phase of a process. When the end comes, it will come so fast no one will know what hit them. Pakistan is at the stage that the doctors have realized it is infected with a deadly disease and have not yet come to terms with the reality that its too late for debate, or wussy solutions, or trial and error. something has to be done by the summer of 2009, something very drastic, or else its all over.

The New York Times has a glowing piece on the operations of a new 400-man Frontier Corps unit that American SF personnel have trained and which has begun operations, killing or capturing 60+ Taliban. Nice job, America.

Now you know what's going to happen next? The Taliban are going to ascertain the identity of the unit's personnel, and they're going to attack the villages those men come from. They're going to kill their women, their children, their cattle, and their dogs and their pet parrots. You can guess what will happen next.

And supposing that the Taliban attack a company of the new unit. What makes the US think that the Frontier Corps men will fare better than 63 Frontier Force fared against the Taliban, or troops from any of Pakistan army's regiments? Haven't we been through this before, in Iraq?

The US eventually scored a big success in Iraq for several reasons. The surge was one. But oil money was another, possibly even bigger factor. Iraqis of all stripes realized that they had more to gain by cooperating than by fighting each other.

The other thing that people don't realize about the Iraqis: they have never been ignorant savages determined to push the world back by a thousand years. Iraqis are a savvy, educated, forward looking people. They had a high standard of living before the US/UN embargos. They didn't ban education for women, and they did whip men who trimmed their beards. They didn't come shoot you because you were listening to music or watching a movie. As long as you kept your mouth about your government except to shout "Jai ho, Saddam!" you had a decent life.

The Taliban and company are completely different. There is no way you will bribe them: these crusaders do not want money, You will make no difference if you push for economic development. They will simply destroy what you create, as they have done to girls' schools and tourist places in Pakistan. If you build libraries, they will burn the books. Every time you try and bring good governance to their areas, they will blow up infrastructure, and assassinate government servants.

America, NATO, India, the world: please understand there is only way to deal with people like the Taliban: is to go after them on the ground and kill every one you can in battle and execute those you capture. and please, none of this exceedingly stupid stuff about "interrogations" and Guantanamo Bays. The Taliban are warriors ready to be kill or be killed. Give them the honor that you - if you are a warrior - owe to other warriors. Kill them cleanly and go on to find the next bunch to kill.

Don't have the guts to do that? Aren't ready to die for your way of life? Think all they want is Nikes and McDonalds and Levis and rap music and Las Vegas and unlimited pronography because they are just westerners with beards and funny headgear and will soon see the error of their ways when they attend a Madonna concert? Think killing them is too barbaric and that we must maintain our "values" no matter what the other side does? In that folks, we have a solution that might work - for a while. Give up now, convert to Islam, and they'll let you live. For a while. Then they'll kill you because you aren't their kind of Islam. Who do you think the Taliban have been killing in Afghanistan and Pakistan for the last 15 years? It's Muslims.

"Note: YS here; I don't support the part below, but I'll leave it in because it relates to the general flow of the essay"

If you aren't going to fight the Taliban, we suggest you spend your remaining time studying how Islam not just came out of the desert to spread over much of the "civilized" world bar China in under two hundred years, but maintained/expanded its power for the next 800 years.

Hint: it wasn't by peddling I-phones and Hustler.
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Monday, February 23, 2009 10:28 PM
Summarizing your long diatribe: In short Islam and Taliban are Evil-You are Good-Now let us know how many Taliban we have to kill-Next tell us any other "enemies" for future we may expect, so we can just prepare to kill them too:Since You are Always Right-So we must just execute anyone
that you deem uncivilized, barbaric, etc.....
George Bush +you are highly civilized, since GWBush created Shock and Awe Attack on the
the civilized Iraqis-
ys
Tuesday, February 24, 2009 12:52 AM
The Taliban are not evil. They are just criminal, and will not be stopped without the directed killing of their most dangerous cadres.

The Pakistan Army has snipers, it has commandoes, it needs to build up intelligence and get rid of the leaders of the Taliban.

The fact that our army is not doing so appears to demonstrate that it is playing a very dangerous double game.

The only option left then is for the civil government to raise and harden its forces to make them capable of withstanding a Taliban onslaught.
U Wazir
Tuesday, February 24, 2009 6:15 PM
Geez, calm down tommyboy, no bearded johnnies are going to take away your shiny toys! From the general thrust of our insecurities, would I be wrong to surmise that you are at the very least an upper middle class chappy of means, well connected and secure, most likely from Islamabad or Lahore or Karachi? Your faith in the Army is touching, but prithee! Explain why the sons of the poor who make up the enlisted men of the Army lay down their lives in this topi-tamasha? They never enjoyed your privileges for which you are willing to have killed thousand of innocent bystanders. Why should Pushtoons of the FC fight Pushtoon of the Talibs and die so you can continue to surf the web? What is so special about you? Oh please do tell!
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Wednesday, February 25, 2009 12:00 AM
der khah wrora. Da dalah dhey puktuun weeney pasey shewy deh-
Translation: Very good Brother. This guy is after killing pukhtuns-
ys
Friday, February 27, 2009 5:30 AM
Been involved in trying to contain them for a few years.

Its an offline thing I did in the real world; y'know, outside the internet.
ys
Friday, February 27, 2009 7:56 PM
First ppl on this board promise I will be killed by a Pakhtun; then they say I want to harm them.

G`damn...

Can somebody explain what is up with the people on this board, Pashtuns, death and me?

Rampart? Maybe you can provide an answer?

and btw; only 20%? Sigh...
U Wazir
Sunday, March 01, 2009 11:27 AM
You still have not answered my original question... What is so great about you, that makes it worth it for so many men to die and so many many villages to be reduced to rubble (most recently - Bajaur). And it is Pushtoon boys who are doing all the fighting and dying whilst your Kakul schooled buddies pocket the dosh they con out of the Yanks. Are you a great scholar or thinker or artist? Are you at least a decent human being? You sound like any other pretentious, posing, disconnected, derivative, urban, colonialised, 'modren' upper class Pakistani twit (with tendency to brag I should add ). Your kind have sucked the marrows out of this land, and have produced nothing. You and feudal cousins have had the run of this country, and you have run it to the ground. Now you want us die for it so that you gits could loot it some more. I am sorry to say this, but the Taleban couldn't do a worse job even if they tried.
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Monday, March 02, 2009 2:21 AM
I agree with what you are saying. You said "And it is Pushtoon boys who are doing all the fighting and dying" One thing I do not understand why these "Pushtoon boys" are doing this dirty work?
We all have difficult decisions to make-I think one big problem with current Pukhtun population and other muslims is that we Lack a Conscious? Otherwise why else we should kill other muslims or others people,on the orders of very Unjust people? In any case there is no excuse for killing another muslim, whatever the consequences might be-
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Monday, March 02, 2009 1:12 AM
Stop misrepresenting the issue-You are acting as a FASCIST like GWBUSH-
All I am stating that you are ADVOCATING THE MURDER OF PUKHTUN PEOPLE-
AND anyone will act in self-defense-Then I clarified that it is not a religious issue-
Since you claim to be involved in murder yourself-from your own post above-I just told you
that some Bannu Pukhtun finding out that you are a murderer may according to
self-defense of his race, decide to do you in-
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Tuesday, February 24, 2009 11:19 PM
There were no Talibans when Russia/USSR invaded-Remember that Strong and Powerful Need to Have an "Enemy" so as to Brainwash the weak-minded like you-So as to Justify War! To make Money! and Capture Resources...Strengthen their Geo-Political Positions etc...
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Wednesday, February 25, 2009 12:08 AM
Ironically you have Islam to thank-Since if Pukhtuns if Not Constrained by ISLAM-would come after you since you seem so adamant in Encouraging Terrorism, and Murder against Pukhtuns. In some way this is just self-defense since you are encouraging under the guise of "taliban" the murder of pukhtuns-Believe me You Have Not met Not- Islam Practicing Pukhtuns-They will make "Talibans"
look like angels. To be concrete, for example, if any Bannu Guy [not religious] deems you as a threat you will regret that you ever lived-
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Monday, February 23, 2009 10:37 PM
In reply to your comment:
"If you aren't going to fight the Taliban, we suggest you spend your remaining time studying how Islam not just came out of the desert to spread over much of the "civilized" world bar China in under two hundred years, but maintained/expanded its power for the next 800 years.

I guess :
Point 1: It was Islam which wiped out the Red-Indians natives in North and South America!
Point2: It was Islam which almost eliminated the aborigines in Australia!
Point3: Stalin Who was an atheist/communist was told by Islam to kill 20 million+
innocent Christians etc
Point 4: Islam inspired the Europeans to Conduct barbaric wars WW1 and WW2-
Point 5: Islam is responsible for all the Environmental Problems and uncountable
WMD
Point 6: Islam instructed Churchill to use mustard gas against Kurds and pukhtuns/afghans
Point 7: In short Islam is responsible for all Evil-
Paul W
Monday, February 23, 2009 11:38 PM
You for got one: Islam murdered 6 million Jews during WW2. They didn't, yet Muslims are expected to pay the price for what Christians did.
oldfan1
Monday, February 23, 2009 11:51 PM
What's up Doc ! Very well said, let me add to your list if I may with your kind permission:

Point 8: It was Islam that subjugated the Japanese by causing mushroom clouds over HIroshima and Nagasaki.
ys
Tuesday, February 24, 2009 12:47 AM
Oldfan; I recall you going on and on about the evils of Benazir back in August 2007.

How did that work out bro?
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Tuesday, February 24, 2009 11:13 PM
So what if he thinks that Benazir was evil-She is responsible for the Murders of Her
Two Brothers! Shah Nawaz and Murtaza-She was driven insane by the Indoctrination of her father who shaped her after Indira Ghandhi-so she was crazy for Power-But Pakistanis are
Individualists and hate people telling them too much what to do!-and people like Benazir get exposed sooner or later-since everyone in Pakistan is an INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST!
ys
Tuesday, February 24, 2009 1:10 AM
Point 9: All Pakistan Army civilian assets are being slaughtered in Swat
Point 10: A network of Taliban informants is being laid in Swat
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Monday, February 23, 2009 11:15 PM
Let History Speak: About:
"In a decade of savage fighting, the Red Army and its Afghan Communist allies killed at least 1.5 million Afghans and drove 2.5 million into exile in Pakistan and Iran. "
Were these Taliban? No but Innocent Civilians-Just imagine: If it had been your family or you-
It was indeed a result of this Oppression that the Law:of Action and Reaction came somewhat in action and people were forced to defend themselves against Oppression-Afghanistan came in a Long Chain of Stans-The Russians have been Brain-Washing and Killing People in Kazakistan, Uzbekistan, ...for Centuries. Come on learn some History: Have you read
this history?
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Tuesday, February 24, 2009 11:03 PM
The Systematic Destruction of Savvy Iraqis: A short time-line-

I guess Savviness of Iraqis did not Spare them Their Lives! against
Shock and Awe of Rumsfeld

You said "Iraqis are a savvy, educated, forward looking people..."

You do not seem to realize that your arguments is so very contradictory. As your statement
about iraqis being savvy-First the american soldiers refer to them as rag-heads-savvy or not!
Let us look at a brief facts: starting 1980's
Phase1: American use Saddam to fight a dirty war with iran-killing and maiming millions-providing saddam with chemical weapons etc.....They refer to saddam as a "son-of bitch- but OUR "son of a bitch"- Having achieved their interest, we move to Phase II
Phase II: Knowing Saddam nature they give him the green light to invade Kuwait-which
was a trap-to justify Desert Storm!
Phase III: Enter Bush Sr. the CIA Savvy! President...He destroyed "Modern" Iraq-in most
INHUMANE Barbaric Way-But of-course ONLY islam+taliban are the only barbarians-
Thus Bush Sr. was bring Democracy to Many Dead Iraqis-

Excuse Given: Saddam is a Tyrant-I am quite Sure That getting Saddam Was much Easier-Like using my Mossad Buddies+CIA+All other State Instruments Available-Surely we did not
need a war at the scale of First Gulf-War to achieve this rather false claim-

Indeed Saddam was allowed to survive, conveniently to Justify, and keep American Public Focus on a Dark Ugly Villian-This is the art of Propaganda and Brain washing-Fear,...
Thus Stage was set for Slow Death of Iraq-So Stifling Sanctions were started to Punish the Savvy Iraqis-
Phase IV: Enter Bill Clinton-Albright-The callousness can be summarized by Albright=read
In-human Zionist" the death of 0.5 million iraqi children" is not good but is justified to stop the evil saddam and his weapons of mass destruction-They fail to mention that the Saddam was getting much of the stuff from western companies and making them rich-To say that
These Sanctions were Punishing is an under-statement-
Phase V: Now the Savvy Iraq is Savvy No More-9-11 is used to attack iraq and yuo know all the rest-

Moral of the Story: Any Story can be invented to Justify Death and Destruction-if it Helps Further the Interest of X, Y, Z....Thus Savviness cannot Help!

Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Tuesday, February 24, 2009 12:00 AM
Food For Thought: Tired of all hate and war-mongering I just thought of this:
Human Beings and Violence: In the big Picture: Human History Supports the
Fact That Humans are Violent: In the Big Picture this is irrespective of Race, religion,
Culture etc- There are deep questions pertaining to this:
Questons: Why Humans are Violent?
Why the lust for Power and glory and Hegemony drives People to Kill?
What makes this possible-In the Large Perspective:We must try to solve these problems instead of spewing mere Hate against culture, religion etc?

Two Good Examples in Literature which address these questions are:
1: Animal Farm-by George Orwell
2: Lord of the Flies by William Golding-

These books give excellent examples How We Demonize Others!
ys
Tuesday, February 24, 2009 1:45 AM
This is the result of Proper dealing with Pakistani Taliban: Through the Barrel of a Gun.

"Taliban Announce Truce in Bajaur "
http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2009\02\24\story_24-2-2009_pg1_11
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7906592.stm


Now before you go ahead and read the B_ll-Sh_t Mullah Nazir put out, let me explain that the Pakistan Army seems to have actually successfully fought the Pakistani Taliban in Bajaur to a standstill. This stiff response might possibly be because either the Pakistan Army grew some balls or (more likely) Bajaur borders Afghanistan's Kunar province; where NATO has launched a heavy operation and the Pakistani's have helped it succeed because both sides cut the cross-border mobility of the Fighters.
ys
Tuesday, February 24, 2009 2:12 AM
Now all we need is President Obama to announce the withdrawal of all American Troops from Afghanistan; and we can see the beginning of a real peace settlement in that region.
ys
Tuesday, February 24, 2009 2:24 AM
I suppose this is the usual fallout of every military dictatorship - the damn things leave whatever part the Dictator hates in flames.

Ayub Khan - Hated Bengali's With Racism - Left E.Pak in a Seccesionist Uproar

Zia-ul-Haq - Hated anybody who didn't share his Village Pesh Imam mentality - Left Karachi and Urban Sindh up in riots.

Musharraf - Secular - Couldn't understand why probing Waziristan with a bayonet may be...y'know...a bad idea.
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Wednesday, February 25, 2009 12:24 AM
Sorry to say but your analysis is superficial at best-Let me just address the bangladesh
issue-
East-Pak-Bangladesh: Many main causes: C1: Since the partition of India-the indians [to their credit] worked diligently to break up Pakistan-C2They had geographical advantage on their side-
C3:Plus Pakistani Thinkers went to sleep-C4: Power Tussle between Punjab and Bengal-the two most populas provinces-C5: Bhutto Greed for Power he negotiated with Indira the demise of E.Pak, since Mujib-ur-Rehman had won the election and Bhutto wanted to be Prime-minister at all costs--Yayha Khan was too simple to know and understand the cunning power-hungry bhutto-C6:India infiltrated the Intellectual Elite in Bangladesh and drummed up Bengali nationalism-C7:Since the rationale of creating Pakistan was an "independent' muslim homeland where muslim could practice their religion on their own terms-India water downed this sentiment, So no Glue was left, or no motivation was left for the union-



Paul W
Tuesday, February 24, 2009 8:14 AM
Human history is a violent history for one reason: people have usually chosen extremism over moderation. Extremist thinking is the preferred choice because it is the simplest way of approaching a problem. Moderation requires considering the perspectives of all sides. Extremism demands only narrow mindedness, something that's come naturally to human societies.
ys
Tuesday, February 24, 2009 9:42 AM
Sir,

Are you recommending enlightened moderation ? :-D
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Tuesday, February 24, 2009 10:20 PM
Paul W: Good insight-I agree with what you are saying-and your logic is sound-However
Extremism is not the only reason-Power Corrupts Humans-and Power plays a large
role in violence-Another one is Human Hypocrisy-Most people lack self-criticism-It is by self-criticism that you can CONSIDER SEVERAL PERSPECTIVES-in other words self-critique can lead to considering many perspectives-
Unknown Man
Tuesday, February 24, 2009 10:08 AM
I thought this comments section was to be about Barrack Osama but all you guys are talking about are Talban and Pakstan.

I think Pakstan is a horrible holiday destination. I went to the capital Christianabad last year and there was not a single Indian restaurant anywhere to be found.
ys
Tuesday, February 24, 2009 10:26 AM
What with the main ski resort being seded to the Pak-Taliban the fun has just gone out.

Tell you what young man; join up with the Canadian Forces and go snipe some of these fellows for your peace of mind. Then Indian Restaurants will flow like honey in Heaven.
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Tuesday, February 24, 2009 11:32 PM
Instead of sending others into the army-Go ahead, You join the Canadian Forces-where you might
run into Prince Harry or someone of his thinking-Who might call you our little "paki"! as he did recently and is now receiving training for race relations-Than Prince Harry Might decide to snipe
you and as usual you can curse the Taliban and Islam-and hold the evil islam responsible-
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Tuesday, February 24, 2009 11:25 PM
You can open one! Perhaps a reason could be that most people have a hard time telling difference between Indian and Pakistani Cuisine-And Pakistan has many other interesting sights if you know how to enjoy subtle differences and to just experience nature or culture-i.e. become one with the space that you are in-You have to go beyond the headlines and examine and feel the place you are in-
DoDaCanaDa
Tuesday, February 24, 2009 11:08 AM
There is another old saying, ´The devil is in the details.´

Eric has done what he always does. He has given us an overview of the situation with things to consider. Don´t blame him if you get hung up in discussing the details.
Paul W
Tuesday, February 24, 2009 11:16 AM
I'm recommending having a handy cave available to sit out the chaos to come. America, with the largest military in world history, in economic collapse! Loyal(sycophantic?) Britain and Canada going down with the ship when the US dollar free falls! I'm glad we've got the Middle East to take our frustrations out on. Just the same, find yourself a cave. This could get really ugly.
Musaddiq Virk
Tuesday, February 24, 2009 6:21 PM
Whenever repressive measures are taken by governments against their own countrymen to still the voice of disagreement, those measures too should be included within the term 'terrorism'. All restrictive and punitive measures taken by a government against its own people to suppress a popular movement or suspected opposition, more often than not, go beyond the limits of genuine legal measures and end up as brutal acts of violence designed to strike terror in the hearts of a dissatisfied section of their own people. Humanity has suffered far more through such acts of State terrorism than through all acts of sabotage or hijacking put together.
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Tuesday, February 24, 2009 11:21 PM
Excellent Point-
Musaddiq Virk
Wednesday, February 25, 2009 9:08 PM
DoDaCanaDa
Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:08 PM
transparency
Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:16 AM
A very clever, Impressive, intelligent article .
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Wednesday, February 25, 2009 3:10 AM
Yes it is a very nice piece of work-especially the points about Gorbachev that are
mentioned here are refreshing-
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Wednesday, February 25, 2009 3:55 AM
From the Economic Perspective: To bring the topic More into focus: Welcome to Obama's War: We must understand some of the mechanisms behind The American Foreign Policy. Economic manipulation is a big part of this. In this context Few years ago-2005-I came across very interesting article by Charlie Reese on the book: Confessions of an Economic Hit man, by John Perkins. In short this confirms and provides further evidence: That
the U.S. Uses Globalization to Cheat Poor Countries Out of Trillions-Which is precisely
the point in Eric Margolis article, we are discussing:

“Washington hopes US troop reinforcements will finally bludgeon the Afghan national resistance into accepting American domination. Then the long-planned pipeline from the Caspian Basin across Afghanistan to Pakistan can finally be built.’’

You can watch it here:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article8171.htm

Confessions of an Economic Hit Man

How the U.S. Uses Globalization to Cheat Poor Countries Out of Trillions

We speak with John Perkins, a former respected member of the international banking community. In his book Confessions of an Economic Hit Man he describes how as a highly paid professional, he helped the U.S. cheat poor countries around the globe out of trillions of dollars by lending them more money than they could possibly repay and then take over their economies.

Or else:
Read the article by Charlie Reese:
Confessions Of A Hit Man
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article10398.htm
By Charley Reese

A part of this article says...

In a nutshell, the game is played this way: People like Perkins work for consulting firms, and their job is to entice a foreign head of state to go deeply in debt. They do this by greatly exaggerating the economic returns on big projects such as dams and electrification systems.


................

I believe Perkins is telling the truth, because I have observed through the years that the United States hates any honest nationalist leader. Let some guy try to benefit his own people instead of catering to multinational corporations, and the U.S. government and the propaganda machine will crank up and paint him as a villain. After the American people have been sufficiently indoctrinated, the poor guy won't be around much longer..............


On the other hand, the ruthless and corrupt killers who play the game our way get rewarded with more loans and more aid. I know this sounds leftist and even, God forbid, liberal, but the more you get to know our government, the less you will think it's all sweetness and light. People fear the U.S. with good reason. We talk about spreading democracy, but what we do is extend empire and make war...................
Rampart
Wednesday, February 25, 2009 8:48 AM

Rampart is conspicuous by his absence from this commentary.
Unknown Man
Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:53 AM
Yes, I found the absence of Mr. Singh from a comments section for an article that mentions Pakstan, most mystifying.

I still think Pakstan's capital, Christianabad, is highly unsuitable for a holiday.
oldfan1
Wednesday, February 25, 2009 8:45 PM
Believe it or not Makkhan Singh I was thinking about you, oops sorry it's Rampart isn't it. It was quite astounding that you have remained so quiet on the topic for so long.
What's up with the silence lost your voice or something, are you feeling alright, have you come down with a flu or something, I am worried.
The Professor Doc has been sizzling hot, wow! He has taken your mantle as the king of multiple and prolific posts and has not let up on Mr. ys's comments.

ys, hey bro why the throwback to 2007 and Benazir, we are now in 2009 and Obama.
Rampart
Wednesday, February 25, 2009 11:18 PM
--[It was quite astounding that you have remained so quiet on the topic for so long.]--

I am trying to impress Margolis with a tidal wave of snootiness and I believe I have him right where I want him....

Actually, Herr Dokter has been such a great new-Rampart, I don't know what to add. Suffice it to say, I agree with him 80% and with YS, 20%.
Mr. Future
Thursday, February 26, 2009 2:50 PM
You all are doing what these politicians do the best, FIGHTING, ARGUING, FIGHTING & FIGHTING SOME MORE!!!!
Unfortunately for those living in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Palestine & Iraq, they don't have food to eat and fear of death around them.
When can fight, argue and hate eachother, but at the end of the day this does not help anyone. How about posting something positive. History shows us that almost all the government in Pakistan have only sought their own personal gains and not for the citizens. Pakistanis are the one who brought an internationally known criminal to become the head of the state!!!! Shall we feel sorry for them or sorry for us????
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Friday, February 27, 2009 4:27 AM
I agree with you-Here is something positive:
Pakistan Main Problems: [are Not so called Militants:|]The fundamental Problems are
1: Energy-To explain this in lay man terms-in Pakistan there are Power Shortages:
We have plenty of Energy like Solar but we have no systematic way to Utilize it:
Thus the power shortages.
2: We need to put clean Industry-
3: Basic Education in Maths, Science and Islam=not your or mullah type But
Islam of Universal Brotherhood-

If we just concentrate on these three issues , and act-Pakistan can become an excellent
example of Sustainable Society-
ys
Friday, February 27, 2009 2:42 AM
Bro, the words you used were fighting and arguing. We are arguing certainly, but it is (on my part) because I love Pakistan and I want all parts to do equally well. That is why this Swat thing bothers me.
I thoroughly agree that people in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Palestine, Iraq (and may I add Bangladesh and India) do not have enough to eat and there is death all around them. But the reason we debate, discuss and argue at these opportunities we are given is because we Want To Know, and we want to know "Why are they hungry?" "Why is death stalking them?". And it is in the answers we can find that we can influence people to do something.
You can see the influence that the electronic media had in Pakistan; people are now more attuned to reality in 2009, then they were in 1999. As another poster here said, we all believe in the strength of the communications revolution.
Now for something positive; look the internet makes sure no action that governments and militaries take remain private, but if you want people to focus on positive here:
http://www.pakpositive.com
http://www.pakistaniat.com
There actually are real positive things about Pakistan, things that make us proud of our country but we can discuss those later. Right now we were trying to figure out what is or is not the best way to deal with these militant monkeys in the north.
Yes governments always act for their own benefit but that selfish nature is what humans are all about; and that is why concerned citizns should never lower their voice before power and from the highest rooftops condemn whatever the rulers do that is wrong.

Now with the Punjab drama (is Zardari sociopathic?) my focus is still on the main problem that the country faces; i.e, the militnts. I sincerely believe that we should either ask politely for their surrender to our forces, with a promise of later amnesty thrown in or we should physically eliminate or capture them.
What I do not advocate is to blithely give in to their demands as we did in Swat. Also, so-called "peace talks" should be avoided as historically the militant monkeys carry them out in bad faith and then break them at a time of their convenience. That is a reason for why our foces failed in Swat. It was blatantly obvious last year when the ANP gov. was talking to these Northern Nutters that they would break their talks:

"In recounting the army's failure to pacify Swat, spokesman Abbas cites a crucial period last spring - when the military offensive was halted while the provincial government tried to negotiate a truce. The general says the Taliban took advantage of the lull in fighting to behead and beat locals who had opposed them. He says when the army returned, local support had vanished.
"We had lost our connections, our informers, our support from the public. You had to separate the militants from the civilians - they had mixed into the population and it became difficult for the military without having informers to separate them. And that started resulting in collateral damage of death, destruction and displacement," added Abbas."
http://www.voanews.com/english/2009-02-25-voa57.cfm

It is obvious that the militants never keep their word and always break their promises.
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Friday, February 27, 2009 4:24 AM
I do not know whether YOU realize it or NOT BUT Your words are an ECHO of GWBUSH
Who said he is a friend of Pakistan-and the enemy was Terrorists now Western strategists
use the word Militants Since the word Terrorists was so Often Used That it lost its meaning!
Or lost its Propaganda Value: To quote you:
""Bro, the words you used were fighting and arguing. We are arguing certainly, but it is (on my part) because I love Pakistan and I want all parts to do equally well. That is why this Swat thing bothers me...""

Pakistan Main Problems: [are Not so called Militants:|]The fundamental Problems are
1: Energy-To explain this in lay man terms-in Pakistan there are Power Shortages:
We have plenty of Energy like Solar but we have no systematic way to Utilize it:
Thus the power shortages.
2: We need to put clean Industry-
3: Basic Education in Maths, Science and Islam=not your or mullah type But
Islam of Universal Brotherhood-

If we just concentrate on these three issues , and act-Pakistan can become an excellent
example of Sustainable Society-
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Friday, February 27, 2009 4:56 AM
"Right now we were trying to figure out what is or is not the best way to deal with these militant monkeys in the north." What are you? These remarks clearly indicate that you are not an evolved human-Since otherwise you would have some compassion for everyone-irrespective of who they are-Anyways if you keep advocating murder of others-Your own hate will destroy you-I think you are driven by blind hatred which is one of the main causes of all the trouble in the world-
ys
Friday, February 27, 2009 2:50 AM
BTW - You guys should buy "American Raj". Eric lets us brain dump on his site; least we can do is make him Several Hundred Rupees richer ;-)

Its a damn good book and the pictures are kewl too.

Apparently one of Eric's Irani middle school classmates tried to oust Khomeini's clique in 1980 with his own military coup. He was betrayed by an American/Israeli agent in the military.

Lots of interesting factoids like these abound in "American Raj".

Contact Liberty Books, Today ;-)
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Friday, February 27, 2009 4:35 AM
You are just taking cheap shots at Eric-I conjecture that you Do not
like Eric Margolis Writings, for several reasons, perhaps mainly due to:

P1: He has exposed your Western Masters-By all means if you choose to ape other
people-You are free to do so-But at least allow others to have their own opinions-
P2: Like many other "popular" writers he is not attacking islam-
P3: He also knows better than to mindlessly follow the Propaganda in main news media
such as CNN, Fox etc as to Who are the "Current Boogey Men" ..
The internet has taken the wind out of "main stream media"-
ys
Friday, February 27, 2009 5:07 AM
Didn't I just blurb in favour of Eric's writings? I dont really care what you say but I have been and always will be a fan of ericmargolis.com.

And the facetious reason you have is ridiculous;
Western Masters? What is this? The 1980's? Are you an old holdover from the Communist Party of Pakistan? Or a Jamaati? They're both extreme wingers.
I have my own opinion sir. And that opinion is that Fazlullah and his morons are a threat to my own country. I don't want nor like people having to suffer at the hands of self appointed guardians of morality, morons who destroy public property like schools, destroy local economies and wreck the infrastructure of an entire district of Pakistan.
Thats a basic principle for operating a normal society.
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Monday, March 02, 2009 2:57 AM
"Western Masters? What is this? The 1980's? " The concept of Western Masters goes much deeper than 1980's!!!!!!!!!!!One could easily write a whole treatise on this particular Mindset-
ys
Friday, February 27, 2009 2:51 AM
Oldfan; what can I say? Its a class thing man. BB has no significance to you or me or anybody else on this board because we don't need a moldering party structure to fight for some access to food, clothing or shelter. Poor people in Pakistan outnumber those with an internet connection and it was kinda sad to see you guys not acknowledge the reality (painfully obvious to everybody in Pakistan by '07) that poor people outnumbered all other kinds of people in Pakistan. And that Big Ben may not have actually done anything for the poor, but as long as her party was there, the poor felt that at least somewhere in the power structure, there was an organization that acknowledged the obvious realities of their day to day existence.
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Friday, February 27, 2009 4:43 AM
It is not a class thing-BB was just exploiting the poor masses-Do you know the amount of land
the British Gave her Grandfather-and how the POOR live on this Land? To start with
She could have distributed this Land to the Poor-That would have been a Good Start-
She was buying villas in UK and living in Dubai, and elsewhere in luxury, while doing
nothing Concrete for the poor-However She Knew the number game-! Since Poor can vote
and there are many of them, she just made them false promises-
ys
Friday, February 27, 2009 4:57 AM
Dr sahab what subject do you teach?
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Friday, February 27, 2009 5:14 AM
I agree with Unknown Man :Tuesday, February 24, 2009 10:08 AM
I thought this comments section was to be about Barrack Osama but all you guys are talking about are Talban and Pakstan.
We should stick with the topic:Since it is OK-to give related evidence-But
we have to keep our focus-After all, it is Eric Margolis website and not a Forum
to debate:
1: Personal Issues
2: Religion
3: Pakistan
Unless Eric Margolis posts a topic directly on these issues-Suffice
is to say that I have been compelled
to debate you-since you [ in my opinion], are unfairly mixing things up-Instead of
looking at the big picture, such
1: Geopolitical significance
2: The Players in Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, Iran, Russia, US their motivations....
3: Domination of Natural Resources
4: Economics...
5: Different Power Struggle....
It is a very Complex Situation and Just targeting and demonizing one group-is
GWBush like analysis-Of course your command of English language is much Superior
to GW Bush-Also due to lack of time-I can only argue in Point Form Note Type script and not in Continuous Prose!
Thanks-So let us Agree to Disagree-
ys
Friday, February 27, 2009 5:24 AM
I disagree that you have to be Ultra-Macro to analyse these regional problems.

That is a problem of contemporary Pakistani analytics to look at the ENTIRE world or the Global system when analysing a problem that can be understood by examining regional/national/provincial factors and variables.

However Eric posted on Obama's War.

And that war Pres. O will have to fight in Congress, Islamabad and Afghanistan.

So We'll Make like the Taliban and Call a Ceasefire.

TRUCE
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Friday, February 27, 2009 5:40 AM
I mean that we have to keep in mind the wishes of the people in this forum, in the sense:
1: That we do not hijack the whole debate
2: Focus only on one PART of the issue-
About Global System:I will ask you a
simple yet a genuine question: Do you know about the All Spectrum Domination Policy
of the US government?
ys
Friday, February 27, 2009 7:11 PM
Stop going on about the Global System. Our country isn't that well connected into it. Thank God.

And btw its called Total Spectrum Domination. Donny Rumsfeld refined it. I knew about it since a long long time ago, in a galaxy far far away.
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Monday, March 02, 2009 1:07 AM
Your answer shows that you Do not understand it-To get an idea Please first study the American Military and how it PROJECTS its power-Briefly it means:
1: US wants to dominate Economically-Using Soft and Hard Power-
2: It wants to Dominate Culturally-Using Soft and Hard Power-
3: It wants to have Complete Military Control-That is why its spends so many
Dollars!!!!!
4: It wants to Dominate Religiously-Since they cannot beat TAUHID by LOGIC
they think that they should dominate By FORCE-
One of the Reason they are Killing so many Pukhtuns-Since they know
that Pukhtuns by Grace and Might of Allah [SWT] are Tenacious and will never
Agree to Shirk and its ILL-LOGIC-It is true that Pukhtuns are not like
iraqis. hey are savvy about different things!!!
Pukhtuns are Savvy about Tauhid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ys
Friday, February 27, 2009 4:54 AM
Then explain to me why poor people (and Sindhi's) went insane in Karachi, Lahore, Rawalpindi, Quetta, Peshawar, and across all of Sindh when she died?
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Friday, February 27, 2009 5:01 AM
Very simple-Pakistani are very emotional people-And they actually Believe and still
Believe in her Lies! They are too trusting, unfortunately of Liars like that- It is precisely
for this reason that in Pakistan Corrupt People do well! It is part of left-over from Colonial
mind-set-That is why People in Pakistan Should be EDUCATED How to avoid Con-persons.
ys
Friday, February 27, 2009 5:10 AM
And the entire People's Party Structure is one big lie?

A figment of our collective imagination?

And if you don't have emotions doesn't that make you a dead automaton? The kind who can't respond to the universal love you constanly espouse?
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Friday, February 27, 2009 5:35 AM
Of-course I agree with you that you should have emotions-But these have to be fair-and
sensitive to others-In fact I feel sorry for people like BB-they are so much consumed by themselves-that they get completely lost- yet I know that Pakistanis need better and more
sincere leaders-who truly represent the wishes of the majority of the People-In fact this two-party system is not a good solution-given today's technologies-
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Friday, February 27, 2009 5:46 AM
About lies:
I will give you another concrete example-The PPP purported itself to be a party of
the Poor-like Chavez, Castro-Yet BB was running and pandering to all the hard-core capitalists?
Does not that tell you something? simple deduction: she was insincere to her espoused principles and just power hungry-
ys
Friday, February 27, 2009 5:16 AM
You seriously underestimate the majority of Pakistanis. A dedicated minority can always run things but systemic flaws will require that it eventually must turn to the majority for support or legitimisation for larger endeavours. That is the significance of the masses of a country.

And you think Pakistani's couldn't tell that she and her husband were a total con? Five year olds could see she was a filthy liar. But tell me, why is she the only one who has to face the verbal firing squad? Why not Nawaz Sharif? Why is it that the People's Party and its candidates have to be constantly delegitimised and degraded, whereas PML abcdeFghiJklMNoPQRStuvwxyz are the ones to be gently reminded that Pakistan needs a solar panel industry?
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Friday, February 27, 2009 5:30 AM
I do not underestimate Pakistanis-as I have said in my postings-I talk to Pakistanis of all kind-
The majority know that most of the politicians are corrupt-However due to Feudal System that
the British inculcated and is sustained to keep Pakistan in post-colonization state-Common people are powerless to effect any meaningful change-Now there are two ways to effect change via Collective Will-Through Education and Meaningful debate issue by issue-and stable
sustainable development-jumping ahead for example to Clean Technologies-
Musaddiq Virk
Friday, February 27, 2009 1:39 PM
The Christian governments, who blindly drop bombs on some Muslim countries on the pretext of the terrorism of the few so-called Muslims and extremists, and are involved in the tyrannical acts of destroying the lives of thousands of innocent people, are also forced to state that the views of the people involved in carrying out terrorist activities in the name of Jihad are based on distorted teachings of Islam, and they are defaming Islam, and that Islam’s real teachings have nothing to do with these people. They also accept that the majority of the Muslims are peace loving, and friendly, and they look at the acts of these terrorists with hate, and reject them. But we also see that whenever they get an opportunity, they overlook these differences, and spread the propaganda that Islam is a violent, bloody, and terrorist, and is against peace, and the western media repeats this propaganda with great intensity and frequency. Their behavior is not based on righteousness and justice, and it does not help in the establishment of social peace, rather, without any reason it provokes people and causes dissension.
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Monday, March 02, 2009 1:21 AM
Exactly-Well said-The main problem are the governments. Who need this Propaganda to keep
Justifying their Huge Military Budgets to their Public-In any case defending your country against
an external forces is definitely not terrorism, which ever way you look at it-Ramsey Clark after
response of GWBush to 9/11 called the response Highly Disprorportionate and grounds for
Impeaching GWBush-Since as Eric has noted the response of 9/11 should have been handled
by Police-and NOT used as a Pretext to invade a country-to Grab it for many reasons that have
already been discussed-
ys
Friday, February 27, 2009 7:21 PM
Dr sahab, you are responding too much to these posts. Answer in just one word and then go back to Barack Obama; Yes or No, Do you want the Truce to continue?
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Monday, March 02, 2009 1:26 AM
First understand that I have nothing against you-I just want to inform the
Public and encourage them and myself to Look at things Critically so that
we can assign blame proportionately according to evidence and not the CNN and
FOX news mindless propaganda Garbage-Now what is your objection to this?
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Monday, March 02, 2009 1:56 AM
Simple Reason: From my point of view what you are presenting as your views, reminds me of
GWBush-and neocons-Now many people do not like these views-and I am one of them-Thus
I cannot resist opposing, what I see as an unjust, and stupid point of view-God gave us a mind
to think and question not to accept things without thinking....
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Monday, March 02, 2009 12:55 AM
Yet another set of reasons for my Posts:
1: I am a sensitive Human and definitely do not believe in Killings of people
for political, religious and any reasons, such as Hegemony of some.
2: Plus I am a Pukhtun, and everyday Drone are killing Pukhtuns, whatever
their belief system, now if an American or related person is killed
we are supposed to call the killer a terrorist-Yet we are supposed to be Happy when
Pukhtuns are killed!
3: As is clear from the post below from antiwar, yet another drone
attack takes place -This too much and American State is a TERRORIST STATE
This is according to their TRACK RECORD and NOT some opinion-So what is so Confusing?-
To make it Painfully obvious
If Taliban had DRONES and were Bombing the Crap of Americans. I would also call them Terrorists-


http://news.antiwar.com/2009/03/01/at-least-eight-killed-in-us-drone-strike-in-south-waziristan/
At Least 12 Killed in US Drone Strike in South Waziristan
Three Others Reported Wounded
Posted March 1, 2009
Updated 3/1/09 6:45 PM EST
Pakistani intelligence officials confirmed today that the missile attacks on a house in Sararogha, South Waziristan Agency came from a US drone. Joint Chiefs chairman Admiral Michael Mullen declined to comment on the specifics of the operation but said that the military has been “carrying out guidance from President Obama” in the region.
At least 12 people were killed and three others injured. Officials said at least some of those killed were foreign militants, but others said all the casualties were local tribesmen. Police are promising an investigation but have not disclosed the identities of those killed.
Since President Obama took office the number and severity of the drone strikes on Pakistani territory have increased dramatically. Though the Pakistani government has continued to publicly complain about the attacks, mounting evidence suggests they have been providing direct backing to them.

Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Monday, March 02, 2009 1:45 AM
You ask me not to respond and yet you post almost baseless Propaganda like the following
that you Posted above"
If you aren't going to fight the Taliban, we suggest you spend your remaining time studying how Islam not just came out of the desert to spread over much of the "civilized" world bar China in under two hundred years, but maintained/expanded its power for the next 800 years."

"Hint: it wasn't by peddling I-phones and Hustler."
Indeed I had done what you are suggesting to us-and came to the opposite
conclusions that you are asserting-
Now how can I not respond?, when I also TAUGHT THIS NONSENSE from Western
and Hindu Writers about Islam was spread by Sword-So I spend nearly 20 years
or so Sincerely questioning Islam on many aspects and including this issue-However
on examining the "total" picture, I arrived at the conclusion that mostly this is just
hostility towards islam-Very simply the Pristine Islam, Christianity, and Judaism are
all based on the PURE MONETHEISM=Tauhid of Prophet Ibrahim. That is the key
point-Now why all the trouble?, that is largely for Political Power etc, since people
are not angels! Thus I found islam both logical and self-consistent.

Islam was accepted without any wars in Afghnaistan, Malaysia, Indonesia,
and many African countries-In Persia there was war since Persian and Romans
were two big empires then. War [much more civil then] naturally ensued between
the rising muslim empire and the ones who wanted to check it, like persian and romans-
Most of the wars Islam engaged in were of defensive nature, such as many during Crusades-Just
look how muslims responded during crusades, how they protected the jews from barbarians-
Finally the crusades lead to Ottoman Empire-So my point is Aggression forced muslims
in many cases to respond-Like Raja Dahir and Qasim history-However there are some mistakes
muslims have made-which I am willing to accept-

Also we must see things in a relative fashion: Why islam left the culture of People
Intact? 1: Look at India, Pakistan, Malaysia, Indonesia, Africa,..all muslim countries
have had their original culture evolved largely unhindered-
ys
Monday, March 02, 2009 2:03 AM
didn't i say I disagree with that part? You need to stop running at the keyboard and read more carefully.
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Monday, March 02, 2009 2:52 AM
Yes I know you left it there and said:
"Note: YS here; I don't support the part below, but I'll leave it in because it relates to the general flow of the essay"
It is like if I put some bad information about you-and then say I do not agree with it-but
I am putting for flow etc-
Rampart
Monday, March 02, 2009 3:12 AM
---[First ppl on this board promise I will be killed by a Pakhtun]---


Relax... I am not going to kill you. LOL


---[Can somebody explain what is up with the people on this board, Pashtuns, death and me?]---


You just came across as being pro-American, even though that might not have been your intention.


---[and btw; only 20%? Sigh...]---


A very important 20%..!!!

There ARE bad elements out there that need to be sorted out.

BUT, these bad elements are not Taliban. They just take the name of "Taliban".

Basically we have to do whatever the US is NOT happy about. If the US likes it, it isn't good for Pakistan, period. If the US hates it, it is great for Pakistan.

Second... this Zardari Govt.... you already know what I think of him, so no need to repeat. What HE doesn't like, will also be good for Pakistan. That is because he only has one ambition in life... crawling as deep as possible into America's bum.

The Pakistan army has nearly solved Swat.

They used snipers and silenced weapons to take out Fazlulla's men, one by one. Now they control the high ground. Diplomatically and strategically.

It is this Zardari who is dragging his feet.

Basically .. after 9-11... we needed time to weaponize, so we made deals with these Yankees. Now we are well on our way. (have you seen Pakistan Air Force's new 2009 calendar? LOL)

I can PROMISE you, the Americans are done here. They might hang around for a few years, but they are done. They will never get what they want on their own terms.

We in Pakistan have to make sure that any bastard whose kids live in America, or who has ever lived in America or has any family in United Motherfrakking States... THEY MUST NOT EVER BE ALLOWED TO HOLD OFFICE.

I still have respect for Mushi, but now believe in some things he was a bit of a pussy. Only because his stupid kid is American.

America is the open jar of peanut butter where all the cockroaches gather. India is a cornerstone of their policy as is Isreal. You really think THEY can be YOUR pals? LOL
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Monday, March 02, 2009 4:28 AM
Rampart Thanks for your amusing post. Let me just add about your comment "You just came across as being pro-American, even though that might not have been your intention."
It is fine to be pro-american, that in itself is not a problem. The problem arises with advocating
aggression and continued aggression. Plus other people have their own-interests of region-country-etc, which must be respected-Especially when we are taught that American Interests
are Holy and must be achieved out at all costs. Amusingly there is no end to these interests, which is basically taking over everything!
Rampart
Monday, March 02, 2009 3:13 AM
damn double post... ignore ignore
Prof. Dr. Sher Alam
Monday, March 02, 2009 4:22 AM
Welcome to Obama's War: Obama's "Change" and Substance: It is an old saying, the more things change the more they remain the same-this old cliche is no longer a cliche as far as Obama's war department is concerned-this department continues to thrive as it did under his mindless predecessor GW-moronic Bush-Some analysts agree and they report:Read all the Facts and Figures:

"Although much noise has been made about cutbacks in the US defense expend"iture, little in substance has surfaced. Two-hundred billion dollars has been set aside for the US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. That is not a noticeable reduction from the former Bush administration’s budget. Also, it has transpired the proposed withdrawal of US troops in Iraq will not happen at even one combat brigade per month. The force size and order of battle right up until the first few months of 2010 will remain very much as it would have been under Bush.

Even after the drawdown, a force of as many as 50,000 troops will remain. And nobody has a crystal ball to offer clues as to whether the US combat brigades will indeed leave Iraq within the "new" projected timescale.

Prior to General Petraeus’ troop surge strategy under Bush, roughly 100,000 US troops were stationed in Iraq. However Obama has pledged 17,000 more troops to Afghanistan with his top brass asking for more than 30,000 extra troops deployed to the country. So what real difference can there be in savings on defense costs if roughly 50,000 troops are stationed in each country instead?

It appears the defense budget is not going to suffer under Obama; which brings us to a comment he has made in his speech. He has said the US is going to be comprehensively engaged across the Middle East region. Is the "comprehensive" nature of the US engagement in the region going to be signified through the continuing deployment of 50,000 troops in Iraq, 10,000 troops in Qatar and another nearly 50,000 troops in Afghanistan? If so President Obama rhetoric on diplomacy is not one of "change".

It is merely the old mutton of British "gunboat diplomacy" dressed up as the lamb of "change".


"
So as expected there is no Recession for the Military!
Musaddiq Virk
Monday, March 02, 2009 7:41 AM
Very well conclusion indeed!!!
Syed Abbas
Tuesday, March 03, 2009 9:42 PM

The fight in Pakistan is about Democracy or Republic. If you do not know the difference between the two, google for it.

Justice minded Socrates was for a Repbulic because Democracy is the tyranny of the Majority. It can not tolerate dissent. So Democracy first ignored him then Aristophanesed him, and finally hemlocked him.

The USA was founded as a Republic. As late as 1930 Government Publications were warning people about dangers of Democracy (then equated with Mobocracy).

In a Republic rights of All are protected. In a Democracy the 50% plus 1 call the shots. It is more suited for class based societies like the UK, Canada, India (caste system). France and US are Republics, so are Pakistan and Iran.

The Jinnah-Nehru differences were irreconcilable since Jinnah wanted a Republic whereas Nehru a Democratic India. Jinnah conceived Pakistan to be a Republic where the rights of minority are protected (even non-Muslims). Later Democratic minded Zulfiqar Bhutto took rights away from the Ahmedis.

The Pakistani Taliban, however distasteful their value system, have a right to practice their ways in their own backyard. Their rights have to be protected and only a Republic can do that. If their rights are trampled they can do nasty things. Democratic Zardari who has already used his dictatorial powers to thump the Opposition better understand that Islam does not favor Democracy, but prefers Republic.

Syed Abbas Toronto
goodgenie
Thursday, March 12, 2009 12:25 AM
Most of the causes behind the irritations and vexing relations between the Anglo American and developiing world are misunderstood by the general public. The public has been sold on what translates to "we are the good guys" and "they are the bad guys". This attitude of late has been the work of ideological neocons who have effectively taken up the baton from their colonial and post colonial forebearers that have benefited the western world's rush to material prosperity. They fizzled out during Bush's tenure. That's when fake money and bad credit took over wealth creation.

The question unanswered is whether the west can find a replacing competitive alternative to the "old money sources"; colonies on their knees. Until such time, military force will be the only means to keep these emerging nations from asserting their development into competitive, military and economic powers in a global rather than colonial economy.

The good old days and ways of colonial rule, Pax Britannica and Pax Americana are outdated strategies for wealth creation. Now the west has to compete with blood, sweat and tears, like the rest of the peoples of this world. Bigoted superiority complexes that saw non westeners as inferior, serfs or coolies are backfiring on the under 35 educated elite as they see their labour rates slashed and livilihood challenged by tthe skilled grand children of these serfs and coolies that work for a fraction of the price in their native countries. Emmigration to the west will decline over time and immigration from the west will grow. That is the natural order; not wishful thinking by a conquering power. Their emigration from the west issue would scare the heck out of those bitching over creeping latinization of the American South west and muslimizaton of Europe. That's the biggest reset button we need to press.

The sooner Mr Obama replaces these mythologies with the "ground realities" as Musharraf aptlly called them, the sooner will the under 35 realise that the fundamentals as understood by their forebeares; hard work, austerity, frugality, waste not want not and the self confidence and safeguards built into family and community life is where a new beginning can take hold again; not big government. Or they will witness the second "burning" of Rome. Once again history repeats itsefl because it is the natural order of life on earth; nothwithstanding the flashes in the pans with the likes of Caeser, Hitler, Churchill, Stalin, Mao, Ghandi or the Taleban that bring hopes in some desperate quarterst hat get dashed sooner than later, as the sunlight vaporises these mytholigcal figures.

Mr. Obama has to tap into opportunites l to transform the Pax Americana political economy to a new age of innovation; the brain power of free minds over fire power of the military industrial complex that has miserably failed the economy for decades.

Americans are salt of the earth people. They can bring the changes that Europeans are tentative about or pre-occupied with fighting against the natural order e.g. illegal aliens.
Mr. Brown and his treatment during his recent visit reflects the sign of the times; not the personalities at play. Mr Brown's England is a relic of prosperity tusing the colonial and neo colonial strategies that are starting to fail the Brisitish labouring classes, just as they once helped them prosper.

A more honest history lesson would have revealed that the first big economic bubble that burst was the "Colonial" bubble. Then the "Tech bublle" that lead to a shift of these centres to Asia. The current "Financial" bubble has burst and when the dust settles, the west will be indebted to the nations they colonised and manipulated for the last 100 years.

One can see these happenings with either hostility or move on. That's worth observing
TitoMoraga
Saturday, March 14, 2009 1:56 PM
I have always admired your fine irony, Eric, specially when yuo call Gorby a "proved a leader of profound humanity, decency, and intellect" --- I believe that to-day Russioan think in the same way as you think about this bastard son of Ronald Reagan
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